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Good News! Jah is speeding up the work!

by awakenyr2004 in

all he needed was the internet how many years later!

the end is definitely around the corner now.

with all the website hits just in the last few weeks how could it not be?

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This emphasis on their website is undoubtedly a double-edged sword for the organisation.

I did a search of 'Jehovahs Witnesses' and 'Jehovah's Witnesses" in Google, and 3 or 4 apostate websites show up on the very first search results page. (The link to this forum was on the next page).

One of those sites is JWSurvey.org, John Cedars site. I recently saw an active JW's tablet (a relative) and it had a logo of JWSurvey on the homepage!! (mistakenly or deliberately, I'm not sure. This person is an active, baptised JW who I've never heard criticise them.)

The Wikipaedia article is at the very top of the page. It has some strong criticism of JW's on it (also strongly defended) and links to an article focusing specifically on criciticsm of the organisation LOL.

Wikipaedia is not an apostate website! No JW can be criticised for reading Wikipaedia.

Reading the Wikipaedia article 'Criticism of Jehovah's Witnesses' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses will be irresistible to many JW's, especially younger ones and 'interested ones'. While this article may not convince a JW they are in a false religion, it can easily have the effect of making them a much less confident Jehovah's Witness with seeds of doubt planted, tipping them into being a perfunctory JW that just goes through the motions.

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DO JW's do a FAIR job of SAVING people--or--is the premise ridiculous?

by Terry in

figures don't lie...but liars figure!.

the message for those babies who are now in their 30's and 40's is that "we warned your parents about a date that meant nothing!".

how does that wash credibility-wise?.

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Exactly Terry.

JW's are in FEAR of a global genocidal massacre by a God that is morally worse than Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot all rolled into one.

They have totally fallen for the little old man behind the curtain pretending to be the big scary monster.

The Israelites fell victim to the tricks of their ancient Jewish priests with their scary stories of a murderous, vengeful God they invented called YHWH. Those frightening fictions eventually became canonised 'holy scripture'. Then the Roman Catholic Church and it's Popes kept up the grand illusion with their eternal hellfire doctrines, and all of the RCC's off-shoots followed suit. For JW's, the Governing Body are that little old man behind the curtain foisting the same scary images of an angry, monster God who will destroy you if you don't obey.

It's all smoke and mirrors my friends, an illusion to keep you in fear!

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How to Avoid the Faithless Spirit of most here-

by DocHouse in

1- pray to god (whomever you may imagine him to be) asking for understanding.

2- study the background about the bible (from non-religious sources) to see where it came from.

3- discard (or at least set aside) chuyrch claims and dogma.. 4- read it, looking up archaeological/historical sources about the places and peoples referred to.

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That's lovely for you Perry, but it sounds rather vague. May I ask exactly how did Jesus sort your life out and in what specific ways? And how are you so absolutely sure it was personally Jesus who made everything fall into place for you?

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A Kindlier More Gentle Jehovah?

by sparky1 in

"for you must not prostrate yourself to another god, because jehovah, whose name is jealous, he is a jealous god," exodus 34:14 nwt 1984 edition.

"you must not bow down to another god, for jehovah is known for requiring exclusive devotion.

yes, he is a god who requires exclusive devotion.

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I agree with Sparky that changing it from 'jealous' to 'requiring exclusive devotion' makes no sense whatsoever and is unjustified. Clearly it's been done either because they think it's insulting to brand Jehovah as 'jealous' (even though that's what the inspired Bible writer said) or because they want to put an emphasis on organisational exclusive devotion, ie, you must be 100% devoted to the Watchtower Society.

Just more of the same old ancient priestcraft since time immemorial of telling little porkies and fiddling with things to command fear and obedience from the manipulated minds of the gullible masses of religious devotees.

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IMPORTANT things for you to think about

by Terry in

things ex-jw's need to know in order to heal and move on.. ***.

1.you cannot change what you refuse to confront.. look at how you are feeling most of the time.

that sense of going nowhere and feeling down is not because you aren't spritual enough.

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Exceptional.

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DO JW's do a FAIR job of SAVING people--or--is the premise ridiculous?

by Terry in

figures don't lie...but liars figure!.

the message for those babies who are now in their 30's and 40's is that "we warned your parents about a date that meant nothing!".

how does that wash credibility-wise?.

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I think this excellent thread gets to the core of why you can walk away from the JW's absolutely mentally freely without the slightest bit of guilt, fear or reservation.

It's absolute madness to believe in a global genocidal doomsday god that is going to destroy everyone except JW's and Down's Syndrome people at this apocalyptic event called Armageddon. Madness of the highest order.

And that is what the JW's believe. Press them on it, and they are forced to admit that their theology dictates that all non-JW's will die at Armageddon. If they equivocate and get wishy washy on this most uncomfortable of questions for JW's, then you have your walk-away card!

And it's just as mad to even want to worship such a god.

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How to Avoid the Faithless Spirit of most here-

by DocHouse in

1- pray to god (whomever you may imagine him to be) asking for understanding.

2- study the background about the bible (from non-religious sources) to see where it came from.

3- discard (or at least set aside) chuyrch claims and dogma.. 4- read it, looking up archaeological/historical sources about the places and peoples referred to.

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I mean, come on..how can anyone rationally believe in all those old ancient stories of bizarro miracles written thousands of years ago by ancient superstitious, unscientific people. What seems more reasonable - to believe those miracles actually happened, or that some Jewish priests and scribes made up a few scary stories to frighten everyone into behaving? They believed it was for the people's own good. It's called 'pious fraud'.

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How to Avoid the Faithless Spirit of most here-

by DocHouse in

1- pray to god (whomever you may imagine him to be) asking for understanding.

2- study the background about the bible (from non-religious sources) to see where it came from.

3- discard (or at least set aside) chuyrch claims and dogma.. 4- read it, looking up archaeological/historical sources about the places and peoples referred to.

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I followed your steps 2-5 and lost my faith.

But you can save yourself a lot of time by simply and honestly answering this question posed by the great British philosopher David Hume:

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November 2014 WT - Points out the fact that Knorr supported false teachings.

by objectivetruth in

- it's amazing to track the confusion and stupidity contained in wt articles.

- in only one watchtower you can find multiple contradictory statements, and representations of truth that are simply lies made up on the fly.

- as an example the nov,15 2014 wt has the following quotes : -.

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Mind-blowing that they would use such an unknown, stuffy and confusing example of 'obedience', all based on their silly 1919 creed. It's like they are desperate to prop up obedience to their 1919 poppycock and this is the best example they could find!

I'm sure Knorr would have obediently believed anything that came out of Rutherford's ass in order to climb the Watchtower corporate ladder.

J Rutherford announces - "Tomorrow the ancient saints will be resurrected in my backyard at Beth Sarim and I'm hosting a party to welcome them back! Be there (with a bottle of gin) if you are an obedient true Christian."

Others mumble sceptically amongst themselves and walk away. Knorr perks up - "Oh yes sir Judge, I'll be there. I believe this will happen. Praise Jehovah."

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WHERE CAN I FIND A JEHOVAH WITNESS OR KINGDOM HALL PEDOPHILE STICKER?

by BucketShopBill in

where can i find stickers warning locals we have two pedophiles in our congregation and they enjoy parking near middle schools watching the girls walk by?

they are not on the sex registry because the elders did not call the police in the 1990s, so these pedophiles think their home free!.

how can i warn the town i live in jw pedophiles are spending lots of time going door-to-door?

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Tell the police.